This disturbing Press release was just issued by the Beasley Brothers, and there is evidence to show that Global Television has caved to Anti-hunting pressure from the Vancouver Humane Society:
Global Television Cancels Hunting Shows from it’s 2013 line-up
Has Canadian Global Television become an Anti Hunter?
Media Release – Global Television Cancels Hunting Shows from it’s 2013 line-up
It is with great sadness that Beasley Brothers announce the very unfortunate decision by Global Television/Shaw Media to cancel all hunting shows on Global and the Shaw affiliate networks. Canada in the Rough™ has been airing for 8 years on Global Television and we’ve had a tremendous experience doing it. We want to thank all of you for your support throughout the years and as much as we hate to say goodbye, we have no choice. Canada in the Rough™, Canada’s most-watched hunting show, will be pulled off Global Television after December 30, 2012.
Our hunting heritage is under constant attack by those who have forgotten that hunting is at the root of human existence and still the most valuable and effective tool in wildlife management.
If you wish to share your thoughts with Global regarding this decision, please email [email protected] as well as [email protected] and [email protected] or call 1-877-307-1999.
Please remember to enjoy the greatness of Canada and be proud of your hunting heritage and thanks for your support
Sincerely,
Keith Beasley, Paul Beasley & Kevin Beasley Executive Producers
Ok, is it time to panic with the idea that all Canadian Media may soon be giving-in to pressure from anti-hunters?
The four hunting shows currently running on Global Television are: Canada in the Rough, Hunt TV, The Canadian Tradition and Angler & Hunter Television.
Outdoorsguy
Things like this make me glad I don’t have tv. Leave that nonsense to the city folks.
As a matter of fact, with a little digging, it turns out that the Vancouver Humane Society is behind this and started an e-mail and letter campaign, and with very little effort on their part, have now succeeded in canceling all hunting shows on Global. So who is next WILD TV, the Macs Milks and Becker’s that carry our hunting magazines.
I’m telling you people, get off your collective @$$e$, they are winning every battle
How can people you would think are intelligent fall for such crap?!!
Man, so they caved to pressure from an Animal rights group…shades of Shad and 1999 bear hunt cancellation, if you ask me…cept this time they didnt seem to need to financial backing..just a simple email compaign was enough.
Outdoorsguy
Iggy, it is my fear that the Humane Society in Canada has/will become like the Humane Society in the US. The organization has actively lobbied against the hunting community for years south of the border.
Until now, as far as I know, the Canadian Humane Society has been active only in the interests of domestic animal welfare. If they start targeting Canadian hunters, sad to say, but we’ll need to add one more name to our (growing) list of enemies!
Outdoorsguy
Some investigation has shed a bit more light on what is surely at the root of Global TV’s decision to scrap hunting-related programming from their Network.
I just discovered anti-hunting ‘propaganda’ littered (and I stress the word ‘litter’) within a Vancouver Humane Society – Newsletter and in other areas of their website as well:
http://www.vancouverhumanesociety.bc.ca/global-television-hunting/
I guess the war is on!!
Outdoorsguy
Also included in the Vanvouver Humane Society (VHS) Website right below their pitch to end all hunting coverage, and to support their slanted view of our heritage, is this great little piece (of something) entitled Some Popular Hunting Myths:
http://www.articles.lovecanadageese.com/myths.html
Outdoorsguy
P.S. My apologies for inadvertently offering these clowns any sort of coverage for their cause.
Whats next???
Are they going to ban farmers, from farming?
I agree with Iggy……..I’m tired of our weak Canadian society…..Come’on people grow a little back bone
sad to see that show get cancelled, in my opinion it was one of the more ethical hunting shows to air on public tv i thought they struck a great balance with their show truly a shame to see the “Antis” win another one …. booo
It’s to bad they gave in so easily on something still loved by
Many people . I’m from Ontario and I saw a Similar post on Facebook from the Canadian Tradition. So if it were to fallow suit that means NONE at all it sounds like. Now what is there to do early Saturday and
Sunday morning? First my cartoons, and now my hunting shows…. What’s
Next?
This is truly a dark day for Canadians. Hunting and fishing has been part of our heritage on these lands for thousands of years. It’s part of who we are and where we come from. When I talk to elders in my family, the topic always leads to stories of hunting, fishing, and the outdoors. These TV programs are a way for us to enjoy these stories from our living rooms on a Saturday morning. Why are these animal rights groups focusing on an activity and a tradition which so many of enjoy? Who are they to imposing their beliefs and preferences on us?
Well GPG, apparently the VHS are also using Ipsos-Reid Poll stats to back their opinion:
“According to an Ipsos-Reid public opinion poll in 2010, 62 per cent of Canadians say that hunting for sport amounts to cruelty to animals.”
“Only 5% of Canadians are hunters”
If you beleive everything they say, most Canadians are Animal Rights activists and anti-hunting!
I scoured through Ipsos-Reid website this am and couldnt find those numbers anywhere.
Outdoorsguy
Instead of an email, write them a letter, stick it in an envelop with a stamp on it… one letter, well written, is worth 100 emails. Here is their mailing address:
Shaw Media
121 Bloor St. East
Toronto, ON, M4W 3M5
The VHS is indeed attacking the hunting community in Canada. On their website/blog, you can see for yourself:
http://www.vancouverhumanesociety.bc.ca/the-truth-behind-the-canadian-wildlife-federation/
I just sent in my renewal for the Manitoba Wildlife Federation! Support our REAL conservation organizations.
Oh man Ron, now you really got me going!
I am a big supporter of the Canadian Wildlife Federation and always have been. They are a fine organization indeed. In fact, I was offered a position several years ago with the CWF office in Kanata, as Media Communications officer..and came very close to packing-up and moving to the west end.
I wonder where our Ottawa Humane Society stands with the VHS position(s)??
Outdoorsguy
I would be interested in knowing who sponsored that research, what the rules were to gather the information including the demographics of the participants, and how they interpreted the scientific data to come to those conclusions.
The only way we can have an effect on Global is to stop watching the network. With the plethora of TV stations instead of watching your favorite non-hunting shows on Global watch another network that carries the same programs and let them know why you are switching. Only by hitting their ratings will we have any impact.
GPG the anti-hunting groups do not let facts and data get in the way of the agenda.
Rick, the thing is with the TV shows in question..there’s a chance they may not get picked-up by another Network. It sounds like, in the case of Canada in the Rough, getting cut by Global spells the end of the show altogether.
Outdoorsguy
mmm isnt this the year the beasly boys took over the show completly.. pigiion was leaving the show and sold it to them maybe he new this was coming. i am sorry to see them go. but i did not realize that 5% was hunters and if that is the case only abou .05% of that watch the show. no money to be made and when it comes down to it, its all about money ..
not watching Global TV won’t do much, sending an e-mail to some of their big advertisers telling them that you won’t support them because they support anti hunting groups might. Take for instance, Canadian Tire, they advertise on Global, and they sell hunting and fishing gear, tell Canadian Tire you won’t shop there because of their support for Global and the fanatics, and Sail Outdoor Stores too.
Just sent Canadian Tire, who is a big advertiser on Global, an e-mail, they have a handy comment section on their web site under “contact us”
Inside scoop – sounds like its not the executives that are wearing the pants on this decision.
what a wanker that guy who wrote that ‘myth’ article is. I just fired off a response to their board although i’m sure they don’t have the balls to post it.
I’m definitely writing GlobalTV and I urge everyone of us to forward the contact info to all of our hunting contacts. Tell them to write.
Just brutal.
It’s pansy’s like this whom I would love to see in a world crisis/catastrophe situation – good luck trying to survive. I swear to God if that ever happened, I’d let them starve. They probably watched stupid Bambi too. Which is why I refuse to take my kids to Disney.
I don’t understand how these people feel the need to slam their faces into our business. Would they wage a similar campaign to someone who voted for another provincial party?
ARRRRGGHHH!
Email I passed on to Canadian Tire, figure I spend a lot of cash there may as well put my money where my mouth is.
Please pass this on as you deem necessary.
As you may have heard, Shaw media, through Global TV, has bent to the will of animal rights folks and now has banned all the hunting shows that were so popular. As Canadian Tire is a advertiser, and supporting this nonsense, I will be taking the $10-12k a year that I spend at Canadian Tire to competitors until such time as support is removed.
I will be asking all those in the farming, trapping, hunting and fishing communities to do the same.
Jeff WildTV still carries Canada in the Rough.
Here’s what I’ve done so far:
1.Written and mailed my letter to Shaw Media;
2. Renewed my membership with the Manitoba Wildlife Federation.
Here’s what I plan to do in the morning:
3. Contact ShawDirect, my satellite TV provider and inform them that I am discontinuing my service with them because of Global’s decision to cancel all hunting related programs. Alternative providers are Bell and MTS.
4. Write a follow-up letter to Shaw Media explaining what I’ve done…and THIS IS IMPORTANT! Show them how my actions affect their bottom line, because this is the only thing they consider. Threats are just that; actions are what counts.
5. Write to the Canadian/Vancouver Humane Society explaining my views on their stance regarding “animal rights” vs the lives and rights of hard-working Canadian citizens. And also explain to them that my pet dog, a Chocolate lab who i love dearly and who is trained to hunt, loves to eat beef and chicken (also in the egg state), as well as the occasional gopher.
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
Global Television Cancels Hunting Shows from it’s 2013 line-up
Please note that these lobby groups are highly organized and use tactics such as threatening, misinformation, and outright propoganda to achieve their goals.
It has been well documented that these groups want to achieve the full discontinuation of meat products in the diets of all people. To me you are legitimizing their cause and further giving them the opportunity to not only remove hunting as a legally acceptable activity but to further their resources in allowing them to dictate to a majority of Canadians that eating animal products is wrong.
The Vancouver Humaine Society has directly on their webpage statistics that are misleading and without verification. Further inspection also reiterates their goal of not only removing responsible hunting as a legal activity, but to remove all animals from being consumed. They have attacked your station, and committed a serious write in campaign to influence your programming.
I would suggest to you that as a media outlet, that you would want to:
1. Continue programming that is viewed by a legitimate viewership who have supported your station over the past decade, and to your sponsors who have paid you to cater to a specialized viewing segment.
2. As a media outlet, get the story from both sides and in fact give your viewers the opportunity to see what specialized groups such as the Humaine Society do to threaten a vast media outlet such as yourselves.
3. Offer programming to a wider spectrum of the population that would further your advertising dollars.
It is true that hunters comprise a minority of the population, but they are a specialized viewership that do have a purchasing power that advertisers desire. I believe it to be a reactionary decision on your part to allow one group of the anti-hunting lobby to dictate their believes to not only you, but to your viewers as well. I believe that you run the risk of allowing other lobby groups to dictate to you what shows you can put on your programming schedule since you have allowed the precedent to be set.
I believe that you also run the risk of having viewers such as myself question why I would want to choose viewing Global programming, as I would be very concerned that your programming may be slanted towards groups that have pressured you into what they want us to watch. I would prefer to have an unbiased show that allows me to come to my own decisions.
As well I am a Shaw subscriber – I would have to seriously question a cable company that would allow a small group to dictate what I can watch. I believe it important for you gauge the importance that your paying customers have the right to not be limited in programming because small groups are offended by the choices you offer. For example I don’t watch Outtv, but would never suggest you remove the channel, I…
part 2( I know wordy as usual)
I simply move on. I believe that you do have viewership that watch those channels, and they should be afforded the choice. Who an I to dictate to you what programming you have.
I have never hunted in my life – I don’t presume to tell hunters what to do just because I don’t engage in their hobby, just as I don’t presume to tell vegetarians how to live their lives. It’s called freedom of choice to which I believe that this Country was based on. I have no right to push my beliefs on others let alone tell you how to run your organization, If I don’t like a show, I simply don’t watch it.
But it seems that you have allowed a small group to dictate your programming to you, I would suggest once more that you have made a serious error, one that you may regret. It may be only a matter of time before group like PETA and the Humaine society demand that you place programming on your service to further dictate to the masses their personal message.
I believe that you have let your faithful viewers down, all in the name of political correctness, and a fringe lobby group dictating to you a minority view.
Thank you in advance for taking the time to read one viewers point of view. I may not be a well paid and organized lobby group, but I do believe i speak for a far wider audience.
Tom XXXXXX
XXXXXXX, ON
Hope this helps
this is a pile of crap i think that global tv are a bunch of wimps there is a hell of a lot of hunters and regular citizen’s that watch all hunting shows especially on sat or sunday mornings as a hunter i am disgusted by this action and will be calling global tv to voice my opinion and will boycottall global channels this is the end of rational thinking next these maggots will have us watching shows on dirt and how it gets you dirty or even s show on how to wash your hands
I think boycotting the advertisers is a good thing to get them to change their plans. Of course you have to advise the advertisers that you are boycotting them because of Global/Shaw’s decision.
Changing satelite providers would help as well.
Also, writing the president of Global and Shaw may be of help. I’ve seen situations in the past where some schmoe down the line dosen’t like something, makes a change, because he has the authority to do so when in fact the change is not in keeping with corporate policy.
Man, this has really ticked me off. I guess it was the straw that broke the back because not I’m really ticked off.
I’ve sent emails to:
Canadian Tire
the Global TV contacts lists
the Vancouver Humane Society (although I doubt that will do anything). I just had to call them out on that stupid Myth article
contact the local paper in Sault Ste. Marie asking them to post a story so they can let other hunters know about this.
As Jeff mentioned, this isn’t just about a TV show being cancelled – I take this as a direct shot against hunting and fishing (b/c you know that will be next I’m sure).
Tom said it best in part 2 of his letter and this is something I ranted to my wife about:
” I have never hunted in my life – I don’t presume to tell hunters what to do just because I don’t engage in their hobby, just as I don’t presume to tell vegetarians how to live their lives. It’s called freedom of choice to which I believe that this Country was based on. I have no right to push my beliefs on others let alone tell you how to run your organization, If I don’t like a show, I simply don’t watch it. ”
EXACTLY! Just because a group of people is so emotionally charged and in most cases, completely clueless, they feel it’s necessary to step into my business, really ticks me off. It’s my right so kiss my derriere.
I’m also going to renew my membership in the Outdoors magazine and join the Ontario Federation of Anglers and Hunters.
I’m going to shoot bow today (moose hunting in a few weeks, then deer next month).
Every shot I take is going to envision an anti-hunting group on the target (no one in particular as I’m not a violent individual, but you get my drift 🙂 lol
Cheers,
Keebler
Another avenue to consider is to write to your provincial tourism bureau… I know that hunting and fishing is a large tourist attraction for the western provinces, as well as northern Ontario. A lot of $$$ is brought into Canada because of our hunting heritage, and a decision by Global TV like this is going to affect a lot of business and employees.
Jed! Can you explain to me what you mean by this post, I don’t understand
Jed says:
September 5, 2012 at 6:41 pm
Inside scoop – sounds like its not the executives that are wearing the pants on this decision.
I can confirm that the Ontario Fur Managers Federation has sent their concerns to Global and have encouraged their membership to do the same as individuals, which I have done.
Perhaps Jeff, Chessy or maybe Iggy can advise what the OFAH’s position is on this.
Trapper, thats great news! The more support we get on this the better and we need to strike when the iron is hot!
I think Global may be a little surprised at what the 5% verbal minority can do..and then after that, we really need
to focus on the BS that the Vancouver Humane Society (VHS) is spreading..like Keebler said, that’s really starting to tick me off!
Trap, I’m not actually a member of OFAH, so perhaps one of you members could ask if they have a stance on this? Either that, or I will
approach OFAH as a member of the press and request a statement that way as I did with the MNR on the tag issue.
Btw, thanks to everyone for their support..its great to see the heart and soul of our sport and heritage rallying around this issue.
Outdoorsguy
Trapper says:
September 6, 2012 at 4:43 pm
I can confirm that the Ontario Fur Managers Federation has sent their concerns to Global and have encouraged their membership to do the same as individuals, which I have done.
Perhaps Jeff, Chessy or maybe Iggy can advise what the OFAH’s position is on this.
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The OFAH’s official position on this is…………………………………………….
hmmmmm lets see, is there a way we could make money off this?….hmmmm
nope
so what if we take the side of the Vancouver Humane Society, could we have an angle to make money by taking their side? hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
nope
OK, Our official position on this, is we have no opinion, although, if all you hunter do manage to get Global on side and reinstate the hunting programs, we’ll take as much credit as we can and tell all our members what a great job we did spearheading this great cause
The President
Good! A hearty applause to Global TV for having the intelligence, compassion amd guts to look toward the future, not the past. Poor Neanderthal knuckle-draggers. Time to find a more humane hobby!
Hey Karen..you aint seen nothing yet outta these ‘Neanderthal knuckle-draggers’!!
Outdoorsguy
for what it’s worth, here is the email I received back from Global TV’s Viewer Contact:
Thank-you for sharing your concerns regarding the changes to the Saturday morning programming block, including Canada in the Rough on Global.
We are continually evaluating and adjusting our programming schedule in order to evolve with our viewers and build audiences. Our goal is to bring as many people to Global as possible in the morning, and keep them tuning in throughout the day. Recently, after careful consideration we removed a number of various paid programs from our daytime schedule in order to broaden the appeal of our daytime programming. The programs spanned a number genres including some hunting-related shows. We are continuing to air hunting-related content across our networks at various time slots.
Thanks again for taking the time to share your feedback, Global always appreciates hearing from our viewers.
Sincerely,
Keebler, it was nice to get some sort of response, but I would be interested to know what hunting content they have left.
My guess is there isn’t any.
Outdoorsguy
stupid liberals. it’s fun to kill critters, and killing critters on camera makes for entertaining tv. for me, when i’m killing things, in a blackout of total blood lust – i mean to say, when i’m “managing” populations, i just want to film it, and show people how a little man like myself can totally destroy, sorry, “manage” the ability to breathe of
a beast 10 times my size.
i just wanna manage the holy hell out of every living breathing thing there is. on camera.
yeehaw! said “manage the holy hell out of every living breathing thing there is. on camera.”
You sir, have the makings of a good reality show!
Outdoorsguy
Go ahead folks … boycott those Coleman ads and outboard motor ads. Whatever. Good riddance to this ridiculous show.
“that hunting is at the root of human existence and still the most valuable and effective tool in wildlife management”
Nonsense! There is absolutely zero reason for any Canadian to hunt for survival any longer. Farmers grow our food for us. Or we grow our own gardens . Our Native Canadians are allowed to trap and hunt because its THEIR HERITAGE IN THEIR COUNTRY. Nor is hunting a tool in wildlife management. Humans have entrenched themselves into every possible living space of several species;(deer, wolf) and have killed off the animals that won`t leave . Mother Nature has always done her job of keeping numbers of different species in check . With man`s help, there is now an imbalance. I feel that its time to leave the guns in the closet. Our polar bears are dying off. Our brown bears are threatened. The only real deer ,moose and elk populations are in parks. For every animal that gets shot, I wonder how many of them wander off to die in agony because the hunter couldn`t keep up or couldn`t be bothered to follow. I wonder how many hunters shoot directly into a flight of geese , wounding , but not killing and then don`t take the bird.
Hunting is a dying sport in Canada as it should be.
Trappers are putting our beaver in danger of extinction along with wolves,cougars , bobcats etc. Women no longer want fur coats to show off. Most traps are also a cruel and unnecessary form of containment for any animal.
As for the tourist hunters, why would you find murdering innocent animals fun and sporty.
Time for you mighty hunters to find another way of inflating your egos. Because killing animals for sport is no longer acceptable in a civilized society.
Heather Boomer-Blancher said “Trappers are putting our beaver in danger of extinction along with wolves, cougars, bobcats etc.”
That is perhaps the most ignorant thing I’ve ever heard…I think you had better do your research.
Outdoorsguy
Jeff, I’m not a member of the OFAH as I have no faith in them. I will say this however; if they are influential in changing this then I will seriously consider becoming a member.
Chessy, can you look into this ?
I have also written to Global on this.
Have to say I expect such nonsense from a hyphenated type.
>>“that hunting is at the root of human existence and still the most valuable and effective tool in wildlife management”
>>Nonsense! There is absolutely zero reason for any Canadian to hunt for survival any longer.
Food is food, That soygettios you eat with your granola three meals a day displaced plenty of animals. Displacing them is a pretty word for starving them through habitat destruction.
>>Farmers grow our food for us. Or we grow our own gardens .
Unless you have a good amount of land, you aren’t growing enough food in your “garden” to sustain yourself. And again, that farmer destroyed habitat to grow your food. And I won’t even get into the number of animals I mow or run over with my tractor every year, you will probably starve to death if you knew.
>>Our Native Canadians are allowed to trap and hunt because its THEIR HERITAGE IN THEIR COUNTRY.
Canada is MY country, and each and every one of us come from hunters and trappers. We wouldn’t exist had we not. It is in your blood whether you like it or not. Some of choose to accept who we are and are proud of it.
>>Nor is hunting a tool in wildlife management.
Heard it here first folks, let’s not listen to the experts employed by the MNR who suggest otherwise, this hyphenated one knows best!
>>Humans have entrenched themselves into every possible living space of several species;
Welcome to the human condition, we are just as much an animal as the deer.
>>(deer, wolf) and have killed off the animals that won`t leave .
That would be your citiot neighbours who deem it necessary to shoot or sedate everything bigger than a squirrel. We on the other hand have no problem when a bear or moose crosses our paths. And at least when we kill something that is a threat, it ends up in the freezer not the landfill.
>>Mother Nature has always done her job of keeping numbers of different species in check .
Through disease and starvation …
More to follow …
>>With man`s help, there is now an imbalance. I feel that its time to leave the guns in the closet. Our polar bears are dying off.
Except they aren’t, in fact they are moving south.
>>Our brown bears are threatened.
Neither are they …
>>The only real deer ,moose and elk populations are in parks.
This is just plain ridiculous. I’ve got a couple dozen deer living in my back yard.
>> For every animal that gets shot, I wonder how many of them wander off to die in agony because the hunter couldn`t keep up or couldn`t be bothered to follow.
This is just plain libelous.
>>I wonder how many hunters shoot directly into a flight of geese , wounding , but not killing and then don`t take the bird.
They’d be breaking the law if they do that. And I’ve certainly never seen it take place.
>>Hunting is a dying sport in Canada as it should be.
One hyphenateds opinion, for whatever that’s worth?
>>Trappers are putting our beaver in danger of extinction
Beaver populations are higher now than they have been in over a century, but sure.
>>along with wolves,cougars , bobcats etc.
Again, not true at all. Hell wolf populations in much of Ontario are big enough to support a year round hunt with no limit.
>>Women no longer want fur coats to show off.
Explains the millions of furs sold every year at auction.
>>Most traps are also a cruel and unnecessary form of containment for any animal.
And you know this from the what 0 experience in trapping you have or perhaps the snuff films animal rights folks get caught faking so regularly? http://old.furcommission.com/news/newsC7.htm
>>As for the tourist hunters, why would you find murdering innocent animals fun and sporty.
Do you go to a different restaurant here and there or do you go to the same old same old? Same thing.
>>Time for you mighty hunters to find another way of inflating your egos. Because killing animals for sport is no longer acceptable in a civilized society
Ahh here it comes. The inflated ego. I’m surprised you didn’t go with the emasculating comments your ilk is so keen of. Hunting is for food. Any preconceived notions you have of trophy hunting need to be laid to rest.
You may like to get your food at a grocery store, we like to get our food in the bush. There is no difference.
QUOTE: OutdoorsGuy “Either that, or I will approach OFAH as a member of the press and request a statement ” END QUOTE.
You almost said reporter LOL.
As for Heather Boomer-Blancher’s submission it doesn’t warrant a reply…
Don’t worry Trapper, I’d never go that far..hehe
Hey Trap, I just noticed your comment was the Blog’s #7000..congrats!
Need any hunting scents…natural or synthetic?
Outdoorsguy
Heather’s hysterical post serves to remind us, once again, of the falsehoods being spread about hunting.
Ms. Boomer-Plancher, sorry, but you really need to get your information straight, your entire comment is littered with inaccuracies.
You have the absolute right to be against hunting. Arguments to support anyone’s position on any topic however, can only be valid if they are true.
To be rally against anything in general based on emotion rather than fact seems to be the trend in today’s society so I don’t fault you for that, however, please don’t expect support for your opinion by quoting falsehoods.
real hunting is done with a bow and arrow, and bare hands. Make that show and give the animals a chance to defend themselves and maybe you wont be seen as barbaric morons.
I’m going to hang up my banjo in protest over this!
Please visit the facebook page and help stop GobalTV and Shaw Media’s decision to cancel.
https://www.facebook.com/stopshawglobal
From there, please like the page and you will see a list of contacts for both Shaw, Global, and their sponsors. I encorage you to write to these people and voice your concerns.
Dear Hunters
Please hunt and cannibalize each other.
Andrew Scorer said “Dear Hunters. Please hunt and cannibalize each other.”
Thanks, comments like that only strengthen our case!
Outdoorsguy
“Time for you mighty hunters to find another way of inflating your egos. Because killing animals for sport is no longer acceptable in a civilized society.”
The only egos I see are the ones telling me how much better they are and we should bow down to their wishes.
To them killing for sport is a mantra they cling to in defence of their pathetic opinions but to us hunting is a way of life, a time honoured tradition of true communication with the natural world. A natural world most of today’s civilized society has sadly lost touch with.
Amen Rick!
Outdoorsguy
I also wanted to send a personal note of appreciation to our non-hunter friend Tom..who continues to share his great insight from middle ground – as someone who doesn’t practise the art of hunting yet understands its value and importance.
Kudos to you my friend!
Outdoorsguy
I just simply can’t understand some of these comments. If you eat, you hunt. If you are alive today, it’s because you have killed. Meat does not grow on grocery shelves. You may not have killed it yourself, but someone else did it for you. At least wild meat was born, raised and lived naturally in the wild. It is the most pure and natural meat available anywhere. They excercise daily, breath fresh air and eat a variety of fresh natural food. No hormones, pesticides, preservatives, or medication – not even in their own food. And they benefit from natural selection (survival of the fittest), only the best survive. On top of all this, hunters support and protect the wild and natural habitats. What more can ask for? Many of the eco-granola-anti-hunting-crusaders will do anything to find grain-fed, free-roaming, organic meats at the supermarket and a premium for it. Then they complain and protest about hunting! It just blows my mind.
Well said GPG!!! Everyone on this planet has ancestors that were hunters. I ask these people to challenge their moral standpoint and ask themselves, is it not more noble to go and harvest a wild animal that has roamed free, rather than an a caged up animal that it’s only purpose is to be slaughtered and put on a plate. You know why we have wild animals, I’ll tell you, it’s becuase we domesticated all the ones that taste the best, the rest are wild. I’m a hunter through and through, and I have to say that when I kill an animal, it saddens me to see any suffering that I have caused, but what really bothers me is seeing animals in a pen standing in their own feces with their only enjoyment coming from a drug filled pesticide laced pile of crap we call animal food.
QUOTE Outdoors Guy ” Hey Trap, I just noticed your comment was the Blog’s #7000..congrats!
Need any hunting scents…natural or synthetic? ” END QUOTE
Kool I get a prize ? We can always use scents, prefer natural. On another note however I wish we could bottle up some ‘sense’ and offer that to a few contrubutors.
Trap, I think that kind of sense you need to be born with..
Outdoorsguy
What, no prize for comment 7012? haha
I thought natural scents were banned for hunting? Is it limited to moose?
Here’s what the MNR has to say about the scent ban:
If you hunt in Ontario, natural attractants containing body parts of any memberof the deer family may no longer be possessed or used for the purposes of hunting
Outdoorsguy
To:Heather Boomer-Blancher’s
you my dear, are a freak
do you eat meat?
if so,someone killed it
do you only eat veggies?
they are living breathing things too
do you wear shoes
are they leather
do you own a belt, if it’s lasted more than 2 months, it’s leather
if it lasted less than two months
it’s plastic and it’s bad for the environment
do you think leather comes from trees
at my cottage, they call people like you townies
best stay in town
wouldn’t want to ever see the real world
your whole post is filled with the intelligence of a five year old
or maybe you are five
I actually feel bad for you living with so little knowledge
Ig, ask her if she wears make up or perfume. The best quality perfumes and make up contain beaver castor and or skunk oil. Maybe she’s an artist who uses paint brushes made from the fur of the finest pelts like Martin Tails, Or maybe she uses Mepps fishing lures which are made from the fur of squirrel tails. I could go on and on…..
the OFAH will lose alot of money out of this, not only in money paid for by their sponsors, they will loose money for labour as well as they play the transfer game.. they (ofah) receive money and they transfer it to the Angler and hunter show. I feel no loss for the ofah on this as their show is nothing but a big advertisment for their “people” but as far as the beasly boys go, I sure hope they can handle the rough . The ofah is sadden by the sudden
people need to go and read the ofah response as they never ever mention any other tv show other than their own.. and how good they are.. I am not a Good one to talk to for a fair view on their politics, as the ofah waste more money than a politcian.
Jeff. Having worked in the retail food industry for over 33yrs i can say with a great deal of knowledge that people have no respect for food whatsoever.Whether it be,produce,meat,dairy or canned.We in north america are so spoiled and arrogant that it would take a famine and an increase of 200% in the cost of food to make people in the cities even start to treat food with the same respect that countries who have a shortage do. The damages and waste are unbelievable. working in the meat dept is an opportunity to see people at there most ignorant. We find meat thrown on shelves,thrown in freezers,packages opened and contents strewn all over.Why? because people have it to easy and accessible and they’re to lazy to walk there fat ass over to where they picked it up in the first place. People have no concept that the piece of meat or poultry sitting on that tray was once a living creature. In this day and age we still get questions like. What animal does ham come from?Why is there blood in the package? They seem to think that when we put rib steak on sale that we get a cow that is all ribs and nothing else and of course it died of old age. They certainly don’t think of the poor animal as they load there carts full of steaks.But that’s okay because it’s them and as far as there concerned there the only ones that eat meat. If they were only aware that there are 60,000 cattle slaughtered every month in Ontario alone. As for all the grass grazers. If they understood that the more grain and grass we grow ,the more wild animals will reproduce and then what would they do.Now that i have finished my rant i will just say that the humane societies are there to make money, and that means they have to lie and twist and distort the truth just like a politition in order to get money, and pay for there mistreatment of animals. The number of cats and dogs killed by these shelters for lack of money would make you sick. But because the public is weary of donating to these organizations they need a target that might generate funds.And that’s where we hunters and fishermen come in. Petitions and boycotts won’t change things. We always seem to turn the other cheek and that’s where i think we are wrong. Going on the offensive like some of our friends on the other side of the border and targeting organizations like global or the humane society might be more effective than always accepting the consequenses.
Please visit our facebook page @ http://www.facebook.com/stopshawglobal like us, and send your letters to Shaw and Global, as well as their sponsors (Listed on the page) as well you will find links to all Shaw and Global’s facebook pages to voice your concern.
As well please take a moment to sign the petition to get these shows re-instated.
http://www.change.org/en-CA/petitions/globaltv-shaw-media-reverse-the-decision-to-cancel-hunting-related-shows-from-globaltv?utm_campaign=share_button_modal&utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=share_petition&utm_term=28136925
KUDOS to GLOBAL/SHAW for their decision. There is no place in “entertainment” for the slaughter of animals. Why should I have to pay for a package that includes these pathetic shows that I would never watch?
>>standing up for the little guy
So you honestly prefer hunters to kill animals with their bare hands where the animal will languish in pain during the fight, be more likely to escape etc than a quick shot from a rifle or bow?
I have no words for that, just no words.
Bitngontinfoil why should i pay for a entertainment package like whale wars where the lead hand is now wanted for serious crimes .. against humans now wildlife.. i guess humans and below animals
Bitingontinfoil says:
September 8, 2012 at 1:46 am
KUDOS to GLOBAL/SHAW for their decision. There is no place in “entertainment” for the slaughter of animals. Why should I have to pay for a package that includes these pathetic shows that I would never watch?
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I don’t watch your stinking soap operas but you still forse me to pay for it
I don’t watch your afternoon girls talk shows but you force me to pay for it
your nothing but a self certered whiner. We pay for lots of things we don’t use
do you cry about all of them
moron
I never use OC Transpo, but I @#$%ing well pay for it
may I recommend you wrap some of that tin foil around your head
you’ll hear the martians talking to you
Trapper says:
September 7, 2012 at 4:57 pm
Ig, ask her if she wears make up or perfume. The best quality perfumes and make up contain beaver castor and or skunk oil. Maybe she’s an artist who uses paint brushes made from the fur of the finest pelts like Martin Tails, Or maybe she uses Mepps fishing lures which are made from the fur of squirrel tails. I could go on and on…..
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I think probably she’s one of those freaks that live in Wakefield,
long grey stringy hair, long ratty old dress, fat, no bra, and hairy armpits
getting a clear picture????
KUDOS to all the hunters who have protested the decision by Global/Shaw to cancel the hunting shows. It will certainly make me reconsider my future watching of Global and using its sponsor products.
QUOTE CHESSY “people need to go and read the ofah response….” END QUOTE
Where Chess ?
A bit off topic but speaking of TV shows, there’s a great new show on the History channel called “Mountain Men.” It’s on Thursday nights at 10:00 pm.
fishr, I watch that now…great show!
Outdoorsguy
ofah.org…. www in front of it..
Hwy. 174 sinkhole blamed on fish
http://www.ottawasun.com/2012/09/07/hwy-174-sinkhole-blamed-on-fish
Come on it’s not the Tadpoles fault… it’s city halls responsibility… ridiculous… well wait a minute it might be Lowell Green’s fault for not bringing this up earlier… wtf will they blame it on next… what a night mare!
jeff …hope it’s ok to post a link on here…and off topic…
maybe the VHS will support the RVCA…
hey what happen to my post… was I banned from this place
Hwy. 174 sinkhole blamed on fish
http://www.ottawasun.com/2012/09/07/hwy-174-sinkhole-blamed-on-fish
Come on it’s not the tadpoles fault…it’s city hall fault for not managing this properly… blame it on the tiny fish or in this case it must have been a huge whale…ya ok! wait a minute it’s Lowell Green’s fault for not telling anyone… ya that’s what it is!
jeff hope it’s OK to post a link on this website especially being a Ottawa Sun story.
come on poor city mngt …just like OC transpo fiasco!
no prob posting that link btw Alain!
Outdoorsguy
that’s it I give up on posting …why does my post disappear?
Alain, remember..when Im not around to moderate that happens.
Anytime you include a Internet link in your comment, it gets sent automatically to spam folder when I have to rescue it.
We’re all good now!
Outdoorsguy
Heather Boomer-Blancher’s response has to be one of the most ill-informed anti-hunting posts I’ve ever read!
“that hunting is at the root of human existence and still the most valuable and effective tool in wildlife management”
Nonsense! There is absolutely zero reason for any Canadian to hunt for survival any longer.”
WHOA! Can we get a touch more uppity? Not every Canadian family has the money to continuously buy their meat from a grocery store! Lady, you need to wake up! Sure, there are equipment and license costs, but for most families, harvesting a moose or deer can fill their freezer for a YEAR at a nominal cost! Ie. they don’t have to buy more expensive meat at the grocery store!!! Oh and it’s meat that’s not pumped full of chemicals or bred to be fat and slaughtered. You’re entitled to opinion, but think just a little bit.
“Our Native Canadians are allowed to trap and hunt because its THEIR HERITAGE IN THEIR COUNTRY. Nor is hunting a tool in wildlife management.”
Now this comment really fires up me! HELLO! this is MY COUNTRY TOO! (and yours, if you’re from here!) Don’t even get me started on the Native rights. It’s an entirely different topic, but I’ve been here just as long as my Native friends yet I don’t have the same heritage rights. BUT, I do have the RIGHT to hunt and fish. They may be Native and have their ancestral rights, but to say other Canadian hunters aren’t just as Canadian!?!?! This is the most asinine comment of your post. Just pure idiocy.
“Humans have entrenched themselves into every possible living space of several species…duh..duh..duh….With man`s help, there is now an imbalance. ”
True – we have screwed up the imbalance. Oh, just to survive this country when settlers first landed here. Not a huge deal I guess eh? Small importance. We could have eaten all the veggies in the 8 months of winter right? oh…. now you see… We screwed it up and we can play a part in maintaining the population. Disagree? Go ask the MNR why they don’t allow as many moose tags in various parts of the province.
“Our polar bears are dying off.”
Wrong (again). In fact, there is growing evidence that the polar bear population is doing just fine.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/04/05/nunavut-government-study-the-polar-bear-population-is-not-in-crisis-as-people-believed/
“The only real deer ,moose and elk populations are in parks.”
This comment is fantastic because it clearly shows you no absolutely nothing about wildlife. I urge you to drive around fields in the Ottawa area close to dusk some night. Those 4 legged animals which look like deer? guess what? They’re DEER! Ask the farmers around Iron Bridge or Bancroft if they’ve seen elk eating their fields!
I sure wish I could post a photo of the moose I shot last year way out in the middle of the bush, no cell reception or other people around except the 4 I was hunting with.
I shot him while you were…
thanks jeff..forgot about that “link issue”. my bad!;O)
looks like bonikoski is on this as well
http://www.torontosun.com/2012/09/07/hunting-shows-shot-down#disqus_thread
aww… i thought i had enough space left.
the last sentence of my previous post should have been:
I shot him while you were probably sitting at your desk in the city.
Oh and btw, he filled my freezer and I haven’t bought 1 oz of beef all winter.
geez, where did I just read this hahahahahahahahaha
“”not at all an employee of CBSA. just a traveller who doesn’t sweat the small stuff. Life can be way to short. “”
too much
“may I recommend you wrap some of that tin foil around your head, you’ll hear the martians talking to you..”
hahahaha…..that’s classic Iggs!
Outdoorsguy
“Our polar bears are dying off.”
“Wrong (again). In fact, there is growing evidence that the polar bear population is doing just fine.”
I wouldn’t be so quick to state that polar bears aren’t in trouble. They have been listed as a threatened species under the United States Endangered Species Act. Russia has also taken some measures to protect them; it banned hunting for polar bears completely in 2010.
Different opinions, different priorities, different politics, different religions, in Canada we are allowed all of that without fear or retribution. Animals have the right to live their lives. Humans are not God and do not have the right to end other`s lives, be they human or animal. Get another ****ing hobby.
If we are all entitled to our own opinion, politics,religion, etc. without fear or retribution, why must people like Helen resort to obscenities to present their point of view?
HELEN SAYS Different opinions, different priorities, different politics, different religions, in Canada we are allowed all of that without fear or retribution. Animals have the right to live their lives. Humans are not God and do not have the right to end other`s lives, be they human or animal. Get another ****ing hobby.”
so why bother us… you need to get another #$#@ing hobby.. you live your life i live mine. AND just pray that the food still continues to grow in winter as you will die with out fresh fruits and i will be living of the “fruit of the land” which is venision chops and steaks and roast and fish and moose and rabbits and ducks and anything else the government allows me to harvest and feed my family legally
Fresh Release from the Facebook page Stop Shaw Media And GlobalTV’s Anti Hunting Agenda
Post one of two because it maxed on character space for this forum
This just in, the following is a fantastic read, Sheri highlights every key reason why hunting plays an important role in our society. Share this story with hunters and non hunters alike.
In Disney World, you can’t have your deer, and eat it too.
By Sheri Monk
Summer is over. The kids are back in school, the days are getting shorter and the nights are getting cooler. For outdoorsmen and women across the country, hunting season has just begun – and never before has the tradition been under such an effective and orchestrated attack.
Last week it was learned that Global TV, owned by Shaw Media, has cancelled all of its hunting programming after this season. While using the word “all” may convey there was a lot of hunting programs on the network, such was not the case. There were three shows –Canada in the Rough, The Canadian Tradition and Angler & Hunter Television. Global was the only network carrying the only Canadian hunting shows, and soon they will be gone.
If it were about the ratings, Icould understand the decision. But I’ve worked in television – you don’t cut an entire genre from your schedule an entire season before the ratings come out. Nor is it likely that all three shows would slip equally in ratings in the same time period, warranting cancellation. And every single source Ihave talked to thus far is saying the reasons were entirely political.
I’ve asked Global for comment and a press release, and Ihaven’t even received a reply. However, the fact that Shaw and Global are staying quiet in the face of all the backlash reinforces the speculation. The Vancouver Humane Society is credited as being one of the more radical animals rights organizations in Canada, often seen as posturing itself after the Humane Society of the United States, a national activist organization which actually has very little to do with sheltering homeless pets.
In fact, the Vancouver Humane Society targets the three hunting shows on its website. Here’s an excerpt:
“Why does Global Television glorify hunting? Global National Television carries at least three programs promoting hunting in Canada. Yet only about five per cent of Canadians are hunters (only two per cent in B.C.) Talk about overkill.”
The page then provides contact information for Global and Shaw so concerned citizens can voice their outrage over the bloodshed.
Whether you’re a hunter or not doesn’t matter – this affects you. If you eat meat, this is an attack on your choice of nutrition. If you raise cattle, or live in an economy fueled by the livestock sector, this is about you too. Do you enjoy rodeo as a participant or spectator? Does anyone you know work in a restaurant that serves meat?
part two of two
Even if you happen to be a vegan with no pets and absolutely no economic connection to livestock or hunting, this still affects you. Here’s why – both grazing livestock and hunting each play a huge role in wildlife conservation and habitat preservation.
Life is not a Walt Disney movie. There is such a thing as too many deer, or elk. There is a natural order in this world – and whether you believe the cause is eons of evolution or because of original sin – animals eat one another to survive and in the end, they all die.
Except that this natural order also includes us, Homo sapiens. And we’ve made it to the top of the food chain, and there are far too many of us. That means we’ve transformed the Earth to serve our species. Wild habitat is now ours. We’ve killed off much of the large predators that could eat us, or our livestock. We’ve dominated every corner of this planet in order for our species to thrive. Like it or not, that’s the reality. And it means we’re left with the sizable responsibility of managing the wilds we have left.
Animal rights organizations are unable to see what happens in a predator deficit resulting in prey overpopulation. Disease, starvation, increased motor vehicle accidents, and even atypical aggression toward humans and pets aren’t uncommon. This is where wildlife management comes in, and where hunters and conservation groups are critical. Groups such as Ducks Unlimited and many others pour millions and millions into preserving habitat and other wildlife initiatives. Responsible, ethical hunting involves protecting renewable resources, not exploiting them.
Every province employs a host of skilled, intelligent and trained biologists to assess population numbers and determine the best course of action for every range and habitat across the country. The hunters harvest the excess to help achieve and maintain healthy habitat for all species involved. Yellowstone National Park was nearly ruined when the wolves weren’t present to balance the eco-system.
Canada was founded on hunting and trapping. It’s part of our heritage, our history and if we truly want our wild lands to stay wild, it must be part of our future.
Let Global TV and Shaw Media know we don’t live in Disney World by contacting [email protected], [email protected] or by calling 1-877-307-1999.
Sheri Monk is a full-time reporter, as well as a freelance columnist and investigative journalist.
[email protected] http://www.sherimonk.com
Helen,
I’m not sure if anyone can contradict themselves anymore in 2 sentences.
re: …different priorities…. in Canada we are allowed all of that without retribution.”
then “Humans are not God and do not have the right..blah blah blah….. Get another hobby.”
?
weak.
Helen, it’s not a hobby, it’s dinner.
guys, guys guys,
these anti hunting morons come on here, take a swing at us hunters, say a bunch of stupid non defensible statements get us all riled up and then run away. Never to be heard from again. Not because they don’t want to, but because they KNOW they can’t defend the comments they make. We all get our shorts in a knot but they are long gone. These are stupid and very ignorant people. Leave them be, unless of course one of them wishes to elaborate on their ideas and actually defend them. My feeling is most of them are six year old kids just having a laugh at our expense
That’s right..we’ve been suckered into fights here many times by these people, but at least they do serve as a wake-up call to all of us.
And as Keebler noted, they may even use profanity to get their points across…which I find to be a lazy way of making a point. Much like those weaker stand-up comics who rely on swearing for getting laughs, whereas the more cleaver comics don’t need to.
Yes, it would seem these groups are spoiling for a fight any time at all..and we need to be prepared ourselves to fight for what’s right!
Outdoorsguy
OK folks…a couple of developments this am!
I just got off the air with Doc & Woody on CHEZ 106 FM, where I nominated both Global Television and the Vancouver Humane Society for BONEHEAD OF THE WEEK!
In case you missed it, I will try to have Doc send over the audio to post here on the Outdoors Guy Blog.
Also this am, I received a nice message from Safari Club International (SCI) President Bob Valcov lending us their full support.
SCI speak about the Hunting show cancellation in their latest newsletter called SnapShots:
http://www.sci-canada.ca/content/index.cfm?action=view&content_id=3952
Hey, the more support the better I say!
Outdoorsguy
i just wrote sheri a small letter on how i feel that hunters are getting a very bad rap due to the few uninformed morons who are self righteous and think that they are excempt from being animal killers i am already goose hunting and i have friends that can’t wait to try the meat out as well deer hunting will be also starting soon hoping to have a great bounty this year as well i am mentoring a few new young hunters this year and i can show to be proud of their heritage just like jeff morrisson and rick poulin whom i met a few times out in carp i will try to follow their values and look up to them as very honorable outdoor enthusiats and hunters who emulate the great hunting experience cheers guys have an awesome day
Quote Iggy “guys, guys guys, these anti hunting morons come on here, take a swing at us hunters, say a bunch of stupid non defensible statements get us all riled up and then run away. Never to be heard from again. Not because they don’t want to, but because they KNOW they can’t defend the comments they make. We all get our shorts in a knot but they are long gone. These are stupid and very ignorant people. Leave them be, unless of course one of them wishes to elaborate on their ideas and actually defend them. My feeling is most of them are six year old kids just having a laugh at our expense” END QUOTE
Anyone else see the irony in this ….ROFLMAO good one Ig……
AHAHAHHA all this talk about hunting shows being axed and not one mention of the ofah angler and hunter tv show.. i love it … oopss i mentioned it
Yeah chessy I know, but seriously…they’re cancelling all these hunting shows yet Honey Boo Boo is still on the air…hehe..there’s no accounting for taste.
Outdoorsguy
The whole world is going down into one big pot of “stew” there is other issues more important than this going on in our world. years ago what happened in your own home was your own business now every one wants a piece of the pie
HIT reply to soon . what about paul watson who is a wanted man do the antis care about that No they worried about what we do in our own home
Don’t worry Chessy, the faithful members of Sea Shepherd Conservation Society chalk-up Watson’s actions under the ‘doing the right thing’ category..which is above the law, after all…but that’s a whole other story.
Outdoorsguy
To all the anti-hunters commenting here, I don’t hunt, but I am SO grateful my husband does and that my children will follow in his footsteps! It IS for the meat, and thanks to his “hobby”, I get to feed my kids the healthiest, most truly, pure organic, lean red meat that our bodies were designed to need and to thrive on. No antibiotics, hormones, GMO feed… just clean safe meat. And my sons will be able to provide the same for my grandkids one day. Hubby is a responsible, ethical hunter and is teaching my boys the same, in part through wonderful shows like these, which also teach them about our beautiful country and animals. And Canada in the Rough is a show that best exemplifies the spirit of what hunting is. When they go out on a shoot (as in film, not gun), they will air the footage of each trip, even if they don’t get a single animal, because as they say in their opening credits, “It’s all about the journey”. The Beasley’s are wonderful people, both personally and in their love of nature and responsible hunting.
Just heard that the judge in Quebec decided that as of now, Quebec can have the gun registration information.
So it looks like Quebec will have a gun registration system
So I wonder what that means for us unregistered gun holders that go to Quebec to hunt
My guess is that before the next Ontario election the liberals will follow suit and ask for the Ontario information. After all there are a lot of anti hunters and misinformed gun registration backers in T.O. and other big cities where the Liberals would think it would get them votes. Votes trump common sense any day.
If I’m not mistaken Bob, the Ontario information is already shreded, Ontario said they weren’t going to challenge it so that gave the Feds the ok to go ahead. I think Quebexico was the only place that got the injunction
you dont think ontario is sitting back waiting for quebec to take the heat from the rest of the country and when or if quebec wins , my “buddy” dalton will be the second province to step in and say .. WHAT ABOUT US
If anyone missed my appearance on CHEZ 106 FM’s Doc & Woody Show yesterday…my good pal Don Wilcox with the Ottawa SUN has just set-up a Podcast:
http://blogs.canoe.ca/outdoorsguy/uncategorized/podcast-of-jeffs-chez-radio-appearance/
Outdoorsguy
quote:chessy says:
September 11, 2012 at 12:52 pm
you dont think ontario is sitting back waiting for quebec to take the heat from the rest of the country and when or if quebec wins , my “buddy” dalton will be the second province to step in and say .. WHAT ABOUT US
I think it’s too late Cheesy
Seeing we are so close to moose season ….IGGY please sit down before you read any further ..please it is for your own good……
Record destruction expected in October
“The court order is currently in effect until further notice,” Julie Gagnon said in the email. As for the rest of the registry, she said: “The process leading to the destruction of non-restricted firearms registration records is well underway.”
The process is underway, but according to lawyer Shaun O’Brien, no actual records have yet been destoyed.
O’Brien is acting on behalf of the Barbra Schlifer Commemorative Clinic in Toronto, a place that helps women who are victims of domestic violence. The clinic, supported in its case by the City of Toronto, has made the application for an injunction to protect the gun registry data. The case is scheduled for a hearing Sept.13 in Toronto.
“On cross-examination and under oath, the government’s representative advised us that the records would not be deleted until starting the first weekend of October,” O’Brien told CBC News on Friday.
She said that while police can no longer look at the database, chief firearms officers can still access it. Provincial and territorial firearms officers are responsible for licencing and other administrative duties.
The records are still in the database and the IT infrastructure to support it remains intact, according to O’Brien.
“The judge hearing the injunction is well aware of the date in October when destruction of data would commence and all parties have ensured that our injunction is being heard before then,” said O’Brien, adding that a quick decision is also expected from the judge.
What about Hunt TV? Do even watch the hunting shows on global you forgot the best one.
Sorry Nate, you are correct.
I only included those three in the original post as they were the ones specifically targeted by the Vancouver Humane Society..but of course all the shows will be affected by this cancellation.
Thanks for the heads-up!
Outdoorsguy
I think the star of Hunt TV just had a strokeand passed away NO?
from my friend Adrian Hare, the turkey guru
“Just got word that John Hunt was on a bear hunt and had a stroke. He passed on today at 43 years old.
My thoughts are with the family…”
Good info Chessy, I thought the info was gone, those @#$%^&* lefties never give up
we should have been as stubborn as they are when they were bringing it in and we wouldn’t be going through this crap now
This week’s Outdoors Column..a rather important one:
http://www.ottawasun.com/2012/09/12/morrison-cancelling-tv-shows-wrong
Outdoorsguy
Here is a copy of the email I sent to Greg McLelland VP of sales at Shaw Media, I’d think he is probably in charge of getting advertising dollars for Shaw.
Dear Sir;
In the absence of a specific defined email address on your website, I am writing to you today.
I understand there has recently been a decision made by Global/Shaw Media to cancel or discontinue the broadcasting of hunting programs.
This is to advise you that although your position at Shaw Media may not be in the decision making process regarding programming, your advertising sales may be affected.
My personal position, should Shaw proceed with such a discontinuation, is the following:
My satellite television provider will change from Shaw to someone else.
I will be boycotting stores and companies that advertise on your networks.
I will be advising every company of the boycott and the reason for it.
I am sure that my position is not unique and that more anglers and hunters will be of the same opinion.
Thank you very much for your attention.
Yours truly,
I sent it this past Saturday morning…. I did not even get the courtesy of a “Screw you” response…
Herman, at least Keebler received a standard form letter response..but I think that was through the general customer email.
Don’t worry though…I’m sure the message is getting through!!
Outdoorsguy
Hey..CHEZ Nation members, don’t forget to go to CHEZ 106 FM Website and vote for Global Television as the BONEHEAD OF THE WEEK!!
http://www.chez106.com/
Outdoorsguy
I guess we seen this coming. I havn’t seen a hunting magazine in the airports for years. I hope the programs still run on wildTV. It still feels like we are gettin shoved in a corner to watch our inappropriate shows. Every other week there is some editorial in the paper stating we don’t have to hunt anymore we can go to the store. Lets get rid of our kitchens and our BarBQs cause they have resturants and we really don’t need to cook anymore. I like knowing what I eat. Watching these shows let’s us know what’s new. I could bitch forever but the moose are calling. Must harvest organic meat
Earlier in this comments section I asked a question regarding the use of natural scents.
This was the answer:
Here’s what the MNR has to say about the scent ban:
If you hunt in Ontario, natural attractants containing body parts of any memberof the deer family may no longer be possessed or used for the purposes of hunting
Outdoorsguy
In fact, the 2012 hunting regulations specify by using the term “bodily fluids (urine, gland oil, feces, saliva, etc.)” I just wanted to clarify this, in cacse “body parts” could be misinterpreted by not including fluids (as I did).
yes GPG, I should have included the bodily fluids part…its funny though, when the announcement first came out and I wrote about it in the paper, there was no mention of fluids.
Anyhow, it didn’t take the gov’t long to get their point across. As far as I know, only Ontario, Manitoba and Nova Scotia have (so far) banned the use of natural scents in Canada.
Rick, you know of any other provinces??
Outdoorsguy
Hunt camp anyone?
http://blogs.canoe.ca/outdoorsguy/hunting/heading-off-to-hunt-camp-anyone/
Outdoorsguy
Meat, egg, cheese, all dairy, some nuts and beans cause acid and in humans acid causes disease…proof positive we were designed to eat fruits and vegetables which are all alkaline! Disease cannot live in an alkaline environment. Besides, hinti is cruel and animal abuse. All creatures were put here by God to share this planet.. Not eat one another. If we cannot share this planet with those who do not look or talk like us… How can we develop as a species? Its species discrimination!
there has been hunting long before there were hunting shows and people hosting them. There will be hunting long after hunting shows are gone. Hunting is not going away anytime soon. The hosts, and their sponsors have
an axe to grind here. They all make a lot of money. The hosts of the various hunting shows harvest more animals in one season than the average hunter harvests in a life time, just for the sake of doing a hunting show. We can go to an outdoor store of our choosing and find out what kind of equipment we need in the field or buy an outdoor magazine.
Maybe we shouldn’t be giving the anti hunter types blatant reasons for being against hunting by rubbing it in their
faces so much. I for one cannot justify killing animals to simply sell things for sponsors, and that is what a hunting show is all about. Nothing to do with our rights. Those boys will just have to find another way to make a dollar.
A guy for ethical hunting
Hey, I found an article on the Sault Ste. Marie paper website. See the below. I wonder what show was involved with this?
http://www.thealgomanews.ca/News/National/Fines+and+Forfeitures+For+Transport+and+Possession+of+Illegally+++Killed+Muskox+.str?22099
Fines and Forfeitures For Transport and Possession of Illegally Killed Muskox
Publish Date: Wednesday, 5th of September 2012
by M.N.R.
Following a multi-agency, inter-provincial investigation, two Ontariomen have been fined a total of $5,500 for the transport and possession of illegally killed muskoxen.
William Troubridge, of Elora, pleaded guilty and was fined $4,000 for unlawfully transporting from Nunavut to Ontariotwo muskoxen that were killed contrary to Nunavutlegislation, thereby committing an offence contrary to the Wild Animal and Plant Protection and Regulation of International and Interprovincial Trade Act.
Roger Davidson, of Stouffville, also pleaded guilty and was fined a total of $1,500 for unlawfully possessing in Ontarioa muskox that was killed, transported and removed from Nunavutcontrary to the laws of that jurisdiction thereby committing an offence contrary to the Fish and Wildlife Conservation Act, 1997.
The limitation period had expired in Nunavutfor any charges for the unlawful killing of the muskoxen. In addition to the fines, the taxidermy mounts of the muskoxen were forfeited to the Crown.
The courts heard that in April of 2005, William Troubridge and Roger Davidson were involved in hunts for muskox on Victoria Island, Nunavut. Video of the hunts was being taken for a Canadian hunting television show. Following information provided to the Ontario Ministry of Natural Resources, a search warrant was obtained and the raw video footage of these hunts was seized from a video production facility in Ontario. Investigators from the Ministry of Natural Resources, Environment Canada’s Enforcement Branch (Ontario Region) and the Government of Nunavut Department of Environment determined from the videos that the muskox hunts were conducted in violation of Nunavutwildlife legislation in force at the time of the offences. TheNunavutlegislation prohibits using a vehicle, motorized toboggan or motorized three-wheeled vehicle to knowingly get within 1.5 kilometres of a muskox for the purposes of hunting the muskox.
The videos show the men being brought to well within 1.5 km of muskoxen so they could more easily select, hunt, shoot and kill the muskox of their choosing. In the case of Troubridge, the video shows that, with his full knowledge, muskoxen were herded by guides on snowmobiles toward him.
The three muskoxen were shipped to Ontario where taxidermy was performed on all the animals so they could be displayed as trophies.
Justice of the Peace Arthur Child heard Troubridge’s case in the Ontario Court of Justice, Guelph, on June 5, 2012. Justice of the Peace Allison Forestall heard Davidson’s case in the Ontario Court of Justice, Cobourg, on June 20, 2012…
I’m happy to see this show pulled from Global Sat morning programming. I think it’s better suited for a specialty channel where people wont be surprised by the shooting & killing, especially kids.
I just had the unfortunate experience of explaining to my crying 5yr old daughter why people shoot and kill beautiful animals when they can get food on any corner as she was watching canada in the rough when I wasn’t around and called me when she saw the men and their guns kill two beautiful billy goats. I never will understand why people hunt when we have supermarkets, but they have a wright to i guess, but why do we need to see this point blank on TV? Saturday morning when the kids are watching? I will be blocking global for the rest of the year so my daughter wont see this anymore. Thanks for the global email addresses I sent them a email too.
David
While I do believe your daughter was too young to watch that program, she will need to understand at some point that food does not just magically appear in the supermarket. There is a process that takes place in order for it to arrive all packaged and pretty. In order for us to live, something must die. That is the way of things.
David writes ” I never will understand why people hunt when we have supermarkets, but they have a wright to i guess”.
Meat comes from somewhere David. Just so you know it’s NOT the supermarket.
Hunting is part of our heritage as Canadians. We were settled as a nation because of hunting and trading.
It is illegal to hunt for sport and let the game rot.
If you want organic food hunt and fish for yourself, have pride in your heritage and act responsibly like every hunter I know.
If it’s alright to broadcast the Simpsons, family guy, american dad, the housewives of Vancouver, CSI, Dexter, be a parent and limit your childrens exposure to television or explain what is happening, if you don’t know whats happening learn.
LOL . I just went to buy a fly tying kit for my son for christmas there was a person there with there husband and when she seen the price of the tying vice 97 dollars she sorta huffed at it . This lady was not with us it was just my wife and I . My wife caught my eye and she put her head down as she knew what was coming. I turned to the lady and said that is allot of money to spend on a 15 year old boy (line in water ), the lady instantly agreed (hook set, fish on!!! ) . then i told her i would rather spend 100 bucks on a tying vice than 80 bucks on a video game or 300 on x box or what ever they xbox live is worth … by they time i finished with the lady she was walking away and i was still yaping at her. some people like david will never understand and it is OUR PLACE AND RIGHT to keep them informed on our stance every chance you get.. also did i tell you how much my wife hates to shop with me. guys it is a great way to get out of most shopping trips just tell your wife you wont behave …
Awesome post.
As someone who is not against hunting for food I would still like to caution your support of some of these “hunters” that put out some of the hunting shows. Try googling “illegal hunting Canadian shows”. At least one of these guys has been fined for running muskox to exhaustion for a show. Gives hunters a black eye!
If you’re referring to the charges against Thomas Pigeon – FORMER host of Canada in the Rough – this has absolutely nothing to do with the television shows cancelled by Shaw Media at the time. That particular television series Mr. Pigeon was involved with had been taken over completely by the Beasley brothers, whom I know personally, and who are not only ethical but practise wise conservation every step of the way!
Mr. Pigeon’s actions, as inexcusable as they are, should have no bearing or leave no ‘black eye ‘on the television show he’s no longer a part of! Evidently Mr Pigeon is now paying for his illegal activity back in 2003; to the tune of $8000!
It would seem someone else needs to do their research..
Outdoorsguy